What If Success Is The Scary Part

Five years into business sounds like a celebration until someone calls your company “mature” and you realize… oh, this is the livelihood now. We’re sipping margaritas and telling the truth about what that milestone brings up: pride, pressure, gratitude, and the very real question of how to build a sustainable business for the long haul without spiraling into fear.

We also get into the brand refresh we thought would be “just new photos,” then quickly became a full identity check. New pictures lead to new website copy, new clarity, and a new standard for how we want to show up as business owners. If you’ve been feeling like your old brand no longer fits, this conversation will help you name what’s changing and why it’s so emotional, especially when you run multiple services and your business keeps evolving.

From there, we zoom out into the entrepreneurship mindset that keeps us moving: intentionality over reaction, asking deeper questions, and letting fear ride along without letting it choose the route. We talk about the weird nerves of full-time entrepreneurship, the fear vs excitement reframe, and the reminder we found in our original Dream Big notebook that the process and the vision were always there. If you’re building something in Rochester (ROC) or anywhere else and you want a grounded push to keep going, you’re in the right place.

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Transcript

Margarita Check And Time Flies

Barb 0:15

Episode 134. I can't believe that we're almost halfway through. That's crazy. I feel like we were just in our 20s and now we're in the 30s. Time is moving uh very quickly. It it is. It is. We should talk about it. Yeah. First, what's in your cup? I am clocking this one in at a classic margarita. Yes. I'm gonna say the same thing. It is what it's giving. Salute.

Lyssa 0:45

Yeah. Yep. That's a classic.

Barb 0:47

And is she good?

Lyssa 0:49

Yes. She knows exactly what she's doing. Last week was um well, the one that I thought was like a sex on the beach. I thought she was tricking us. Um, and she said that it was, in fact, close to that. She said it was a hodgepodge of different juices, orange, crayon, pineapple. Um, so very similar to a sex on the beach, but it was still tequila. So I don't know what that means. A sex on the beach margarita.

Five Years And A Mature Business

Barb 1:16

Like esque. But it was delicious. It was classic, it's delicious. Always is. Um, her margaritas are delicious. She's good at what she does. So this is gonna be a great episode to sip these margaritas on. Yes, it is because our birthday is coming. Oh our business birthday. I'm gonna rip it off. I know, right? Our business birthday is coming, and we're turning five. And five is like the break of like the breakthrough of like statistics, statistics for businesses and how long you make it, and there's just like a lot to unpack there.

Lyssa 1:56

There are so many feelings. So if we want to start with that, one Elisa has a lot of feelings right now. It is hard to carry them all. Um, because there is this sense of accomplishment. There is this sense of pride. And in the same time, we talk about duality all the time on this podcast. We are also finding ourselves in a season of like, wow, we don't have a little baby business anymore. I think someone called our business mature. Mature. And I was like, okay. I'm sorry. What? Mature business? Good cure. So to hear those words, it really kind of shifted that diamond for me to say, you're not playing around anymore. This is not a game, right? You you are a full-time entrepreneur. You are both full-time in this. This is your livelihood. This officially has become what sustains you both. And that's a lot of pressure for our little five-year business, you know? That's kind of like a lot. And while I am not nervous about carrying the weight in any way, shape, or form, it's not that. It is still just, I think, natural human emotion, I think is what I'm I'm just experiencing. I'm experiencing this excitement and and pride. And I'm also like, we have so much to do. We have, we have to make sure that our mature business can continue to mature, right? We did all of the things to get our business into maturity, but it doesn't stop there. That part. It does, it actually kind of just like starts there, right? Because now it's not a game. I've survived, I've made it, I'm sustainable. But like, how long can you sustain? And I think right now I'm kind of living in those feelings, and not in an aspect of like, I think we can't sustain long term. It's just that long term feels like a lot. It's like a really long time right now. And I'm just a little, you know, overwhelmed by all the things that I'm like, okay, I'm in this for the long haul. So, like, what does that mean? Yeah.

Brand Refresh Turns Into Deep Work

Barb 4:12

I think it's that, right? Everybody wishes they had a business or wish they had the thing. And you never really know what that means until you get the thing and you're like, uh that's what that means, right? With great power comes great responsibility. Uncle Ben said it the best. Somebody should put that on a shirt. And that's what it feels like. I have a responsibility to show up to my business because look how far we've come. Yeah. Looking back at the last five years and seeing everything, every part of the journey, every struggle, every win, every hiccup, all of the things. And I'm like, holy shit, that was just five years. What's gonna happen in the next five years? I can't even imagine what challenges, hiccups, wins, loss, all the things are waiting for us on this next chunk, this next chapter. Yeah. And that, right, that responsibility, the weight of that and of this decision that we got to make. Right. We chose this life. I'm going to choose this life every single day because it is so wonderful. And that also means that this life comes with uh, you know, a lot of things that we get to figure out because we are making up this life as we go. We sure are. Every single day. It's just like another uh, what are we doing? What are we doing here? Where are we going? And that's a lot, and it's there's duality in it, and we're feeling it because per yush, our birthday's coming up. That's why we're talking about this. We have something planned. Yeah. And it's fun and it's big and exciting, and it's change. And change is hard.

Lyssa 6:08

And I think that is right, it always happens in this way. And we never know what we're doing until we do it. And so we knew that this was the time period to take pictures again, to do like a little brand refresh on all the things. And at the same time, I didn't know what that meant. I didn't understand. When I said brand refresh, like in my mind, I was like, we're just gonna take a few new pictures and of how we look now, five years into business and what this looks like now, and celebrating, like you said, who we are today, who we are as business owners, and representing the business owner that we are today and not who we were when we were making it up three years ago when we originally took all the pictures that everyone sees the most. And through that journey of just like trying to figure out who's gonna take the pictures, and then well, then what exactly are we doing in these pictures? And then, well, I don't know, we have like three separate branches plus more growing all the time. Like, what is gonna be included here? And it was just such a dissect of like where we currently are that I wasn't ready for. I didn't know. I didn't know that that's what I was gonna do. Yeah, and then it it trickles naturally, right? And we're kind of in this photo shoot realm, and then we're like, yeah, we're gonna go update the website with all these new pictures. And then it was like, with new pictures comes new words. And now we got to think of all the words to go along with all the pictures to explain all these things. We are just it just brought in so much awareness that this little thing was not just gonna be a photo shoot. I thought I was gonna have a photo shoot, it was gonna be cute. I'm gonna eat cake because obviously we eat cake, that's what we do, and then I'm gonna move on. No, it's never that simple. This became something so deep, it's so intricate. We are thinking about details that I wasn't necessarily prepared to think about, and it has left me with a lot of feelings, circling back to Elisa's a lot of feelings right now. Because there's just so much, there's so much to process, there's so much to think about. And I think that's the part too, right? Classic Barlee says that we never know what we're really getting into when we first do it. So we've kind of had all this time, we've been sitting on this content day, and now here we are. It is two weeks away, and we're like, fuck. Do you know what we're doing? Do you understand the capacity, the level at which we are trying to convey this story, this message, this business? It's not just about the last five years, it is also about the next five years, and that was another layer. Layer number three, that was not ready to like think about, and yet it's exactly what I need to be thinking about. So I'm gonna sip this margarita and think about it.

Barb 9:09

We we're so cool.

Lyssa 9:13

I gotta end it.

Intentionality Over Reaction In Life

Barb 9:14

I gotta lead with it because if not, then I'm gonna be like, we're crazy, and that's like the negative. So I'm gonna go with the positive. We're just so cool and so intentional because the story matters, the plot matters, yeah, the way that I remember this journey matters because that is a culmination of my life. So I want to write this story as beautifully and full and rich as possible. And that's why content days like this for us mean something different. It means really sinking into the thoughts and the feelings and all of the emotions that go with everything. Because what are we trying to portray? What are we trying to convey? What story are we trying to tell with where we are now? Yeah. The girls that started this business, the girls that at year three rebranded and relaunched and officially launched as like, I'm a big girl, I'm, you know, we were almost claiming our uh I'm here. Like, hear me roar. Absolutely, a thousand percent. And now doing this again, or even just doing it in year four, where it was such a crazy year because we were saying goodbye to something and hello to something new and growth and change and everything that last year was. And here we are, yet again in year five, faced with the same change and growth, and all of that stuff changes you. Yeah, it changes who you are and how you operate and how you think because it matters.

Lyssa 11:02

All of this shit matters. The intentionality behind all of our decisions are for a reason, and I think that we are now in the season where we can actually see that, right? We have gotten to a point in our lives where we can actually see how drastically different our lives used to be. And that factor was intentionality. I was not intentional with any of my decisions, I didn't think anything through. I just acted, I just did. I thought life was happening to me and I reacted to the things that were happening. And when you can flip that and realize that life is happening for you, and when you can be proactive towards the things that you want in life versus reactive to the things that have already happened, look at what can open up. Look at what you can do. And that's what we have seen in our lives. And now it's almost like you said, it's it's with great power comes great responsibility. Now I know that. Now I know that I have this power of intentionality and I'm now responsible for intentionally choosing every little minor decision in my life because they all matter in the end when we're at any day now, living our best lives.

Barb 12:23

You can't wait.

Full-Time Entrepreneurship And Money Patterns

Let Fear Ride Along Anyway

Lyssa 12:24

I can't wait for that, right? But I have to make sure that if I want to be that person at the end of my life, that I'm setting myself up to do those things which start today. I have to think about that. And I don't think, right, when people think about their lunch for the day, when they think about what they're gonna do over the weekend because the weather's finally starting to turn and it's getting a little nice, very emphasis on little. Little. Um, you know, those things are it's just so quick to be like, I'm gonna change everything that I had planned, everything that I thought, and I'm just gonna move with what I want to do right now. But is that moving you towards where you want to be? Like that is the biggest piece. And coming up into this content day, that's been like the biggest question is whatever we're doing on this day, when we're putting things in the timeline and we're writing out all the projects and we're saying the shots that we want and the things that we want to do, is that setting me up for the future business that I want to have? Is that showing up for the future business owners of homemade events? Are we portraying who we want to be? I hope so. I a hundred percent believe yes. I mean, I know it. And I think that's just where like the overwhelm comes in, is right, because it does matter so much that I'm like, am I missing something? Is there something else I should be thinking of? Right? I've never been in a mature business phase before. Like, I just want to make sure that I don't fuck it up. And like that fear, it can harm you, it can hurt you, it can infiltrate, and I can feel that, especially like small tangent, like going into full-time entrepreneurship, right? Like I am used to every two weeks, money being deposited into my bank account. I've just had that for years now. That has been my pattern for years. And not that there's not money there, but it's still just like uh, oh, today's Friday. Am I gonna have some money in there? You know, new money, fresh money coming in, you know, like, and it's not there. And there is a small part of me that wants to fear that, that wants to be scared. And then at the same time, I'm like, but do you have money? And I'm like, well, yeah, I have money. Okay, then what are you scared of? It doesn't matter that it didn't come in a pattern of every two weeks and all of these things. Like, you still have what you need, all your needs are taken care of. And it's so easy to flip over and to listen to the fear. And I think that's where I'm at. I can't do that. I refuse to give in to that side. And I feel that in the business now too, right? Like I'm at five years and I want to make sure that I'm here for another five years, and then five years after that, and then five years after that. Am I doing the right things? It would be so easy to be like, you're fucking this all up. You know nothing. Sometimes you thought pictures were gonna make your website better, you know, like all of these things. And I'm just like, yeah, no, I I'm not gonna live there because I know that what I'm doing is is setting the intention. I know that I'm planning all these things out. I know that I am writing the story the way that I want it to be written, and therefore I'm gonna love the ending. It's gonna be great. Even if in the middle it's a little turbulent, you know.

Barb 15:58

I love this because I know that in previous episodes we have discussed that the idea of fear having to come along for the ride, right? He's part of the movie. Yeah. In Riley's feelings box, fear was there. You can't negate the fear because then I'm sure something like else crazy could happen. And we're carrying the fear with us while moving forward.

Lyssa 16:28

Yeah.

Barb 16:28

And we've done this before, and there's no doubt in my mind that we're going to continue to have to carry fear a little bit and just be like, shh, it's okay. We're still going forward in our journey, whatever that may be. But this is just part of life. This is this is one of the emotions that is in there, and and it's okay. Yeah, it's okay. Fear is actually supposed to be there to keep us safe. And we want to be safe, right? We want to be taken care of for of, provided all the things. It's not a bad emotion. Yeah. But we are choosing to not get stuck in the emotion. We are choosing to say, you are coming because we're all going over there. And you have to come, and that's okay that you're a little scared. Yeah. Instead of just like, oh, that's scary.

Talk Back And Ask Deeper Questions

Lyssa 17:24

I'm not gonna do it. Right. It's like you said, it's how we've always managed ourselves in this business. That was actually one of the very first, I think it is the first um like professional book that we read was Fear is My Homeboy by Judy Holler. And changed the game. It changed the game. I think honestly, anyone, if you were just starting out, I think that is a perfect first book to pick up for any entrepreneur, anyone who is just trying to take a chance on themselves, because fear will stop you from doing absolutely anything and everything if you let it. And that was so important for us to almost shed that living belief, like very early on in business. And not even shed it because, like, again, it's still there. It's just a knowing. I just know that I'm gonna survive my fear. I know that on the other side of fear is greatness, and I'm just gonna keep going towards the greatness regardless of the fear. And that perspective shift, it's just important. It's important in our sustainability, it's important in our growth. Like you said, the fear is there to keep us safe, it's there to make us ask questions. I've actually like to use the fear as almost like a gauge of like, do you really want this? Is fear here because you're truly scared? And if you are truly scared, is it because you're scared that you don't want it? You're scared because you you do want it, you know, like where is it going? You almost kind of, it's a tool that you can use to be like, okay, no, this is, you know, red flag. Fear is going off because like something is not right here. And I am unsafe and I should not go and enter that business deal because it's not the right thing for me. Or it could be in there because it's just terrified of greatness, and you've never been that great before. And what happens when you get there? What do you do? I don't know. I'll figure out when I get there because that's where I'm headed right now. And so fear gets to come along for that ride. And I think this was a a Barbara Ellenism. Um, but your body doesn't know the difference between fear and excitement, those actually show up the same inside of your body, the same reactions, chemical reactions, and things like that happen. So fear can actually be a choice sometimes. You can choose whether or not you want to be scared of that thing or you want to be excited about it. And that was like another huge game changer. And again, another way to gauge, okay, am I excited about this thing that's about to happen? Am I excited about moving forward, about doing all the things that we're about to do in our business to say hooray to five and keep going for more? Or is there something that's wrong in the plan and we need to like rewrite it and do all these things, you know? And I think right now I know that we are on the trajectory for greatness. I have no doubts about it, and it's excitement. It's excitement because I've never been there before, and my body wants to present it as fear, but it's only because I've never been there before. But I could also be excited about someplace that I've never been before. So, like, that's where I'm gonna go. I'm gonna try and live there because all the other feelings are just so overwhelming, guys.

Barb 20:52

So my feelings. Um, I think this is one of our superpowers of talking back to ourselves. Right? We've really honed in, and there's one thing that we can share with you guys on top of all of the isms is like talk back to you. Ask deeper questions. Ask yourself deeper questions because how will you know if you don't ask yourself the question? If you don't talk it out, yeah, you will stay in the unknown, the murky, the stuck feeling. And that is a muscle that we have trained for almost three years on this podcast and years plus, even when we didn't realize and understand what we were doing. And quite undeniably, one of the best things that we could ever do. We no longer hold ourselves back from what could be, right? Because that's what fear does to you, and that that's amazing because how will You reach greatness if you hold yourself back from the things that will make you great.

Lyssa 22:06

Exactly. And I'm not interested in that. I'm not interested in that life. It sounds mediocre.

Barb 22:12

It's like a mediocre life. And then what is the point?

The Dream Big Notebook Proves It

Lyssa 22:15

You only do this one time. YOLO. There's the best ism of them all, you know? Like you only get one shot here, and I am disinterested in wasting it. I'm disinterested in doing anything that is not exactly what I want it to be, how I want it to be. And being on this side of entrepreneurship truly makes me feel like the world is my oyster. I can actually do anything that I want. There is no one that is gonna tell me no to anything. And most of the time it doesn't even matter because when I hear no, I don't hear it. I just hear, oh, I gotta figure out a way to do it anyway. I hear no to that. That means I just gotta figure out another way to say it, and you'll say yes eventually. I'll I'm gonna get what I want. In the end, I always get what I want. And that's not like a cocky, boastful thing to say. It's it's that I refuse to settle for anything other than what I want. And I don't think that's a bad standard to have. And I think it's exactly why I'm sitting on this podcast talking about these things because I give myself what I want. I wanted a platform to help other people, to inspire other people, to let them know that they're not alone, that we share in this collective experience and that we can grow and do things together. We don't have to be alone all the time. And I did it, and that's really cool. And I wanted to have this business. I came across a notebook. Yeah. It said dream big on it. No, I wasn't ready. Not the first notebook ever. The first notebook of our business. And that first page was about our first event. And my favorite thing on it was that we've been doing it from the beginning. All of the whole setup, the whole layout of the page is exactly how I lay out the pages right now. It nothing changed. I I put in each little section, I write down all the things that we need, where they're gonna go. There was a list at the bottom of the things that we have to buy. Like all the questions were there. Where are they gonna sit? How are they gonna enter? What door will they come through? Where is it gonna be, you know, uh the food? Like all these things. Justin's gonna be doing this at this time over here. Like, I just remember, right, as we get more and more into this business, we look back at those little girls that started this business and we're just like, wow, you had no idea what you're doing. But when I opened that book and I saw that I do the same things that I do today five years later, I knew exactly what the fuck I was doing at that very first event for that very first party. I knew what I was doing the whole time. That's crazy. And then there were a few other parties in there. And it was just like, wow, wow, we've been doing this for so long and like not a long time at the same time, but like to see all the words, to see the questions, to to see it written down, to see that there was a process, there was thought. Those girls five years ago wanted this business to succeed just as much as these girls do right now. And that's that's important. Because if we would have, if we would have let our fear of that first year, and the fear of the unknown, and the fear of like, shit, we've never done this before. We don't even know how to start a business, we don't even know what we're doing. We went almost a whole year without an LLC because we were just like, this is not real. It's just for fun. I can't, you know, like we just have we refuse to commit to this bitch, you know? And like, look at what we have accomplished because we committed. And now that I know that this is our lives, this is our gift, this is our zone of genius, this this is what we're meant to do for the rest of our lives. I am ready to commit. I'm ready to marry this version of us. I'm ready to go all in because this is a really cool life with a really cool business. And I already know that we can and will take it anywhere that we want. Because look at where we've taken it in five years.

Barb 27:04

Those girls had no idea. None. Those girls had no idea. Oh my god, you gave me all the feels that notebook. So I have my own notebook. We had matching notebooks.

Gratitude For The Team Behind Us

Lyssa 27:14

Well, we said we were gonna start a business, so immediately it was like, I have to go buy us notebooks. I think that was like literally my first trip. I went to Marshall's because I want a cute notebook. It can't be any notebook. So, like, don't take me to Target. No, absolutely not. I went to Marshall's and I bought us the two cutest notebooks that said dream big on them.

Barb 27:33

And I'm so grateful. I'm grateful to the journey. I'm grateful to us. I'm grateful to every person along the way because we are not standing here because we are the baddest bitches on the block. We are standing here because we have had an army of people behind us, pushing us, guiding us, loving us, showing up for us and all the crazy things that we ask people to do for us. This is not uh just a two-man effort. There's just, you know, we just we're here. Yeah. But there's so many people behind us believing us to get us here. And I I needed that. You you can't sometimes you can't hold the flame all by yourself. Like sometimes you need help. And I'm so grateful, so so so so so grateful to the people that we have behind us. Because it's it's not easy, but it's so worth it. And I just some of the things that we've done, man. I just can't believe some of the things that we've done. We're five years into business and we are two full-time entrepreneurs. Period. Period. We are two full-time entrepreneurs running this business. We have a podcast that's gonna turn three years on in October. Yep. What? Yep. We have done out-of-state weddings, we have traveled to Syracuse to do things, and we've met new people, and we may have been late to some parties, and we have fixed huge things that have arisen. I've seen someone's boobs, a stranger's boobs because of this job. So many things have happened in five years, and I am grateful for every little nugget because that one notebook brought back so many feelings, so many memories of us. What does this even mean? Of us grinding, of us trying to figure out the process, trying to figure out how this works, trying to figure out what this means. And here we are, five years later, sitting on the same couch, not same couch, but same idea of a couch, looking at each other and saying, okay, what do we do here? And like, let's work on this and like let's fix this and let's fix that. And the DNA was there from the very start. It was. And thank you for that because sometimes it does sound like, well, I don't know what we're doing here, right? Because it does feel that way. But at the very same time, no, we do know what we're doing here. It is baked into the DNA of this business. It started from a place of love. Yep. We love doing this, and everything was there from the very beginning. So there is no doubt in my mind that it's gonna continue to, it's there. I'm fostering it, I'm loving it, I'm growing it, I'm intentionally taking the steps to grow that. So it has to grow into a beautiful, beautiful plant. And it is. And I just can't sometimes. It's my plant. I did that. That was all me. And everybody else buying me, but it was me. And you. Oh yeah.

Lyssa 31:15

It's like a lot. I have a lot of feelings right now.

Barb 31:23

So that's where we are. We are in the middle of planning this, in the middle of feeling all of these things and unpacking and uncovering and processing and organizing.

Lyssa 31:35

I can't wait to like get back on the pod and tell you guys all about what the experience was for the content. Because like there's yes, like there's just there's so much. There is so much that we are putting into this that I know once this day is done, there's going to be such a release that is going to happen. And I don't, I don't know. She wasn't even ready.

Barb 32:00

Love even more. We're gonna share this now. We have our celebration planned for once we receive these photos, right? I'm put, we are putting time, yeah, energy, our hearts into this because of the however long we've been rambling about how much we love doing this, right? And we intentionally took the time to plan the celebration of what this means. Not just like we're gonna get these pictures, we're gonna change the website, and then we're gonna do this, right? Not just the masculine, operational, all of the things that it does mean, because yes, it does mean that. Those are important. And we're putting our heart and soul into this. Yeah. How are we going to celebrate when we look at these pictures, when we see this version of our business? How are we gonna integrate that into our being?

Lyssa 32:53

And we luckily we know, thanks to Kelsey, because we got a bestie named Kelsey. Yeah. And she be looking out for her host.

Barb 33:01

She does.

Lyssa 33:02

And she gifted us with our champagne bottles. Uh, I think we talked about this because we we talked about the first one that we were able to pop already. Uh-oh. Um, and yeah, I, you know, I mentioned that I wanted the goal to not be attached to a monetary goal. I didn't want it to be an I didn't want it to be a masculine goal. I wanted it to be a feminine goal. And we knew, right? Again, because we just be like knowing shit without knowing anything. Um, but we knew that this brand refresh was going to be huge. Um before we even had a photographer. Um, but we just knew that it was going to be very important uh to our story, to our moment. And here we are, two weeks away. And guess what? It's really important. Um, so I did. I I put that on there that when we get this back, when we see this reveal of who homemade events is today, who Barlisa is today, when we finally get, I think the pictures worthy of marks and mindset because she's developed now. When we took pictures of her the first time around, we didn't know what we were doing. We had no idea. We never had a podcast before. I don't know. But now we are seasoned, we know what we do, we know who we come here for, who we show up for, and we never know what we're gonna say. So I'm not gonna even try to pretend we do, but there's just meaning there, and so now I'm excited to see that all of these stories, all of this happening inside of Slate. This is going to be such a beautiful project that is going to mean a lot to us, and yeah, I think Champagne is worthy of that moment. So I can't wait. I can't wait to pop that bottle and look at everything that we are doing right now on paper into a photo because like that's what it is, and I think like that's the other part that's just like such a mind fuck for me because it's in my head, and then I put it on paper, and then I materialize it into stuff, and then that stuff gets photographed, and then I get to look back at it after it's already done, and I get to take all of that in. And when everybody else looks at it and sees a beautiful photograph of a beautiful party, I get to know that that party started in my brain, and then it went on paper, and then I had to materialize it, and then I had to do it, and then I had to be photographed, and then the photographer had to make their magic, and then this picture got to be in the world. It is just not these things. I just can't take anything for granted anymore. I I think I just have this deeper understanding of how everything works, and nothing in this world is easy, and nothing is alone, and it's a process. And when you are living intentionally and when you're thinking about these details, you do. You you go deep, and there is so much that is invested into this moment that that picture is gonna be way more than a thousand words, it's gonna be like 10,000 words to go along with my 10,000 feelings.

Barb 36:24

It becomes our core memory, it becomes the entire culmination of from concept to fruition to forever, because right that's gonna last forever. It's digital, it's not on film, ain't going nowhere. And that is beautiful that we get to create our core memories and hold on to them forever.

Lyssa 36:54

I love that. Can't wait to talk about this after.

Closing Thoughts And Follow Us

Barb 37:04

That's gonna be crazy. But then we have other projects to go along with this project. Like it's gonna be a roller coaster, and I just can't wait. It's just gonna be such a great five-year rollout. Yeah, it nothing but greatness lies ahead of us. And I think to wrap it all the way up, we are excited. We are acknowledging this season of change, of maturity, which means that we have to adjust, we have to learn what that means. And knowing that whatever it means, it's gonna be great.

Lyssa 37:37

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